I think my one and only parking ticket was $15 - I had a job interview so I parked in front of the building, not seeing the "No Parking after 4" sign
(my interview was at 4). It annoyed me so much that I turned down the job offer (at the time, it was for a temporary position) and now I'm glad I did
because my job there would have been transferred to Argentina within two years.
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Posts: 3023 (07/04/09 6:19 PM) Trekkie Cheese |
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Posts: 6602 (07/04/09 8:29 PM) Choose Your Own Cheese |
You could have been the Other Woman!
Yeah, I think parking tickets out here start at around $65, but I'm really not sure. I am CRAZY obsessed with checking all the signs before parking, and have refused to go somewhere if I couldn't find reasonable parking. We also have predatory tow trucks, and rich people putting up fake signs. There's a Blockbuster down the street from me that doesn't want you to make a right turn out of their lot. But it's a fake sign, and the only reason they don't want you to is because it's a small, wealthy neighborhood with a couple of famous people who don't want cars on their street. Wah. It's a STREET. That's what it's for. And I live in your neighborhood, and am not circling the block to get back to my apartment. Suck it up, famous people. My cheap car will not give your lovely house cooties. |
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Posts: 3972 (07/05/09 12:26 AM) Australische Kase |
I don't think socialism vs. capitalism has much to do with it. Stupid joke. |
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Posts: 1347 (07/05/09 12:00 PM) Brie Cheese |
My last parking ticket was around $30, I think. I was so pissed off by it, I had to return some books to the library, and go to the drugstore in the mall to
fill a perscription. The library is right next to the mall, so I parked there, dropped off my books, and then just walked over to the mall instead of moving
and reparking my car. And I got a ticket because the library was closed and I guess you're not supposed to use the parking lot in that case. Which,
whatever.
To bring this back to ethics, a parking lot attendant gave me back too much change about a month ago and I did not correct them. It was to park at the building where my doctor's office is and they charge an insane amount for parking. Going to the doctor or hospital is covered here but they all charge you a freaking fortune to park! |
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Posts: 12516 (07/06/09 2:53 PM) Bigger Cheese |
Should adultery carry a monetary consequence? As I've discussed, in NC, if your spouse cheats you can sue the other party for damages. It also carries an
automatic alimony penalty, regardless of financial situations. I just don't know how I feel about it. Well, I definitely disagree with being able to sue
the other party. That person didn't promise you anything and does not, IMO, bear responsibility for safeguarding your marriage. As for the alimony penalty,
I get it a little more, I guess, because you could say that one party broke a contract and therefor should be penalized. But I'm pretty sure nothing I
signed for my marriage certificate actually stipulated that I will be slapped financially if I cheat.
I'm obviously against cheating on our spouse or hooking up with a married person in general. But I just don't know that I'm comfortable with the government having a say in the whole thing. |
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Posts: 13667 (07/06/09 3:06 PM) Bishop Cheese |
I would tend to agree with you. IMO, every relationship has its own rules. Someone who decides to cheat isn't acting morally, IMO, but that doesn't
mean that their spouse is, either. I am not saying that one spouse "drives" another spouse to cheat - the person who cheats is responsible for his
or her own behavior. But is cheating worse than being emotionally abusive, for instance? Or physically, for that matter? As bad as being unfaithful may be,
the non-cheating spouse may also have contributed to the break down of a relationship, and I am uncomfortable with the state making the determination as to
which behavior is worse.
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Posts: 4966 (07/06/09 3:11 PM) al-Jubna al-Raaqisa Cheese |
This seems like the debate between no-fault divorces and at-fault divorces. Although the more I think about it (even over the course of the two seconds of
thinking about it now), the more I don't think behavior in marriage should have any connection to distribution of property or alimony (possibly custody of
children--I'd have to think more about that one). I think connecting the two reflects a view of marriage as a transaction that no longer reflects how we
view marriage in the US.
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Posts: 34147 (07/06/09 3:16 PM) Reporter Cheese |
For about three seconds I was thinking, well, if a person is abusive, maybe they should pay a lot of alimony....? But no. There are other laws to deal with
abuse, at least, the physical kind.
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Posts: 1915 (07/15/09 11:18 AM) Choose Your Own Cheese |
This is why I feel so uncomfortable with WAY older people having children. I realize
no one controls when they die, but I just think it's horribly cruel to children and quite selfish, but maybe I'm jaded because my mom is only 20 years
older than me. I used to feel confused as a 7 year old because my peers had 42 year old parents, but I've come to learn that's normal. 7 years old with
a 74 year old dad? Not so normal or great.
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Posts: 11999 (07/15/09 12:17 PM) Fishy Cheese |
It makes me wonder why transgender people are required to jump through flaming hoops for years, passing lengthy psychological evaluations and living as the
desired gender for a year before they're allowed to have surgery, while anyone who wants to be a parent at any age can walk into a fertility clinic and
just get it done. The transgender person's decision affects the life of no one but him- or herself, unlike sudden desire of the elderly to reproduce.
It also makes me wonder what doctors, who call anyone over 35 who's pregnant for the first time an "elderly prima gravida," call them when they're over 65. |
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Posts: 7804 (07/15/09 2:51 PM) Dilled Havarti |
I used to feel confused as a 7 year old because my peers had 42 year old parentsYou must have been a very advanced child. There's no way I could tell a 27 year old from a 42 year old when I was 7. There were maybe 4 classifications of people in my mind: kids, teenagers, grown ups & really old people. So did the 66 year old pregnant with twins not have a will that said who gets custody of her kids, or do we just not know about it yet? I assume her brothers are about her age. Just to pull this into current US custody stuff - Katherine Jackson is 79 & Diana Ross is 65.
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Posts: 51 (07/15/09 5:36 PM) Cheeze Whiz |
Before I clicked on CC's link I thought you were talking about
this woman.
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Posts: 34304 (07/15/09 5:42 PM) Reporter Cheese |
Oh my word.
One thing I can say about British newspapers, they are much more ready to call someone out for foolish behavior (like trying to go through IVF at age 72.) |
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Posts: 1917 (07/15/09 5:47 PM) Choose Your Own Cheese |
She added: 'I have babysat young children and been with friends who have babies and I know it's hard work, but I get on very well with children. That's the same thing that 12 year olds tell me when they want to have a baby young. Somehow it sounds even stupider coming from the mouth of a 72 year old woman. |
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Posts: 53 (07/15/09 5:56 PM) Cheeze Whiz |
ChocolateCherry wrote: A new study actually shows that C-section stress changes DNA, but yeah, she's not playing with a full deck. |
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Posts: 12006 (07/16/09 10:25 AM) Fishy Cheese |
A great many experiences change DNA, but this is in terms of altering gene expression, not changing genes from biological parents' to surrogate
parent's. This woman sounds like she also believes that birth marks are caused by the mother being frightened during pregnancy.
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Posts: 7816 (07/17/09 10:43 AM) Dilled Havarti |
I'm feeling bad for something I didn't do this morning. When I was walking from the subway to work, a very nice looking woman was walking towards me.
She was wearing a shorter than knee cotton knit dress that was hiked way up on her right side by her bag. I noticed her coming towards me & I didn't
say anything to her about it. I did turn around once she passed and there was no butt or underwear showing, but I'm sure she was revealing more than she
realized.
It happened very quickly, but after she past I was analyzing why I didn't say anything to her. I'm ashamed to admit I think the reason was because she was very pretty. I think if she had been more plain, I would have been more comfortable approaching her. I also think there was some passive aggressive energy on my part such as, why should I do her any favors, people probably bend over backwards for her all the time. If I was in that situation, I would want someone on the street to inform me, ideally a non-threatening female. So that's why I feel bad I didn't do unto others and all that.
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Posts: 34332 (07/17/09 11:03 AM) Reporter Cheese |
A woman who frequently panhandles outside the parking garage where I park (I greet her, but have never given her money) told me once that my skirt was hiked
up. The whole exchange, which was like 2 seconds long, left me filled with guilt. Why don't I give her money? Why do I rush past her instead of chatting
with her like other people do? Why am I such an awful person?
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Posts: 228 (07/18/09 12:53 PM) Cheeze Whiz |
My mom called me this morning to tell me that the son of a friend of hers had died Thursday. She was upset, and I couldn't really comfort her because I was
upset myself and I couldn't tell her why.
This guy (who I haven't seen in well over a decade) did something awful to me once, when I was little, and I never told anyone. I feel guilty about that because I doubt I was the only one and perhaps I could have prevented that and now it's too late for any kind of justice. Plus I feel guilty about basically being glad he's dead. And there's nothing to do about any of it! |
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Posts: 13739 (07/18/09 1:55 PM) Bishop Cheese |
LadyGayle, it sounds as if you were the victim of some kind of sexual molestation? If so, I am sorry. And if that is
the case, it is never too late to seek some kind of counseling for that kind of victimization. And counseling can help you work through your feelings of guilt
on both points. I don't think you have any reason to feel guilty but I know it is not uncommon for survivors of sexual abuse to feel that way. And, in
any case, my saying you shouldn't feel guilty isn't going to stop you from feeling that way.
A couple of months ago, I was walking to work and the shoelaces to my sneakers became untied. I was carrying a bunch of stuff and just didn't bother to stop. An older, black gentleman stopped me and leaned down to tie my shoe. I was caught between feeling thankful (and I thanked him profusely) and feeling really uncomfortable, especially because he was black and I felt guilty about the image that presented. Ultimately, though, I decided that I should try just to feel some gratitude since the guy really didn't have to do what he did. |
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